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Sheila Carroll's avatar

I’m grateful for the clarity of your roadmap here — it’s helpful to see how the Five Ways connect to the attributes of classical theism.

As I was reading, I kept turning over the phrase "natural theology." When Augustine speaks of creation bearing witness, or when Aquinas begins from motion and causation, I sometimes wonder whether they mean something more integral by “nature” than we tend to mean today. Not simply the abstraction “the created world,” but a reality already experienced as beautiful, intelligible, ordered, and speaking.

I find myself asking whether we modern readers even fully share that sense of what “creation” is. Do we still perceive the world as something given and meaningful in itself, prior to analysis? Or do we begin from abstraction and move outward?

Your post stirred that question for me in a good way. I’d love to keep thinking along these lines — these are conversations worth having.

Victoria Cardona's avatar

I like how clearly you walked through this, Alex. It felt simplistic enough yet also very insightful. I especially liked your explanation of simplicity. The point about composite beings depending on their parts, and how that would undermine God being first, made the idea much more concrete. The section on goodness also stood out to me. Tying goodness to existence itself, rather than treating it as just one trait among others, really clarifies why omnibenevolence is not just added on later.

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